Maybe upgrading is pointless….. - PCI-E Gen 4 vs Gen 3

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PCI Express gen 4 has been around for over a year and a half now - But it hasn’t really made much of a difference… Does that change with Ryzen 5000, RTX 3000, and Radeon 6000?
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  • Dennis
    Dennis10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    😨 It inexplicably slid off the table. My jaw dropped in sync with Linus. 🤭

  • Simone Rinco
    Simone Rinco23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I guess you would see a big difference for application that transfer a lot of data from CPU to GPU or viceversa. Serious applications try to minimise these transfers because they are a big bottleneck, so the difference is not big for already optimised programs. You could try measuring a single cudaMemcpy call and see if that alone doubles the speed. But again, good programs have a very few of those calls.

  • Aaron Victor
    Aaron Victorวันที่ผ่านมา

    And another legendary drop

  • gamethecupdog
    gamethecupdogวันที่ผ่านมา

    Is team red making a comeback in the gpu space? I've just been almost forcibly switched away from windows and am really missing reprojection on VR

  • Bernard Gilbert
    Bernard Gilbertวันที่ผ่านมา

    @0:41 Staged or a genuine goof-up 🤔😂

  • David Simmons
    David Simmonsวันที่ผ่านมา

    I have just seen an interesting documentary that Linus knows fuck all about computering and why people have left his company I was shocked to see it and shocked to see his behaviour I will be taking myself off Linus tech tips I actually enjoyed the shows until I saw how he really behaves especially the bit when he’s talking to his wife about leaving a legacy who he was caught filmed I’m shocked but not surprised people that seem to be nice guys aren’t always nice aren’t always nice are they nice

  • ahmad alief
    ahmad aliefวันที่ผ่านมา

    hey, i use gen 2. Really not joking.

  • OneJenBead
    OneJenBeadวันที่ผ่านมา

    Yall should get softer floors, given how often you drop things on them.

  • Wasiq Bin Zahid
    Wasiq Bin Zahidวันที่ผ่านมา

    Ooh more interesting information that won't help me anytime soon, time to spend eleven n a half minutes

  • Subri Subrika
    Subri Subrikaวันที่ผ่านมา

    Linus are you sure you're a tech guy? I mean you drop more tech than anyone other than Austin tech

  • Mia
    Mia2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh how ive missed the spectacular drops

  • Hidey Boi
    Hidey Boi2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gen one?

  • Azarilh Namu
    Azarilh Namu2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just switched from PCI-e gen 2 to gen 4. 😂

  • Wolfpackflt670
    Wolfpackflt6702 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Linus is a guy who doesn't learn from his past mistakes, instead he does the same thing over and over again and expect things to change. That's the definition of insanity.

  • Quinton B
    Quinton B2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:57 You can tell he's actually nervous to drop it again.

  • Serf Overlord
    Serf Overlord2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    they did the classic

  • L0E
    L0E2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'll still accept that MoBO for my build please lol

  • Heroicalx
    Heroicalx2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    he didnt even have the instinct to try to catch it as it fell lol its a curse

  • pattipopp09
    pattipopp092 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you plz give me gpu i have all my parts except my gpu i have been trying to get a gpu for like 8 months it will be my first pc🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

  • zeenoh
    zeenoh2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    AUGHGHHH that drop hurt.

  • bear
    bear2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i like trying to get verified just for the rush of adrenaline. im too broke due to covid to even buy one 10% below msrp lol but the content is great and linus is a god for doing this

  • Bill Bollinger
    Bill Bollinger2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Gods have fallen... multiple times.

  • Leo Ruark
    Leo Ruark2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    oooooooooooooooooooooooofff 0:45

  • DarkRoe The Nin-Bot
    DarkRoe The Nin-Bot4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:43 the moment we're all rewatching multiple times

  • Eric Leupolt
    Eric Leupolt9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What exact ssd do you used for the test?

  • FunLittleGames
    FunLittleGames12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For anyone wondering, the anomalous CS:GO result makes a certain amount of sense: only a tiny tiny TINY fraction of the data used by the GPU to render a scene actually changes from one frame to the next (or, more strictly speaking, needs to be passed to the GPU across the bus). That's information such as the positions of objects and the bones of animated models, along with the instructions that trigger the rendering of scene elements. What's relevant here is that rendering a 500,000 poly character with hugely complex shaders doesn't require all that much more information to be sent on a frame-by-frame basis than a simpler one. "Here's where the bones are, use this shader with this cached setup data; off you go." In addition, CS:GO is a DX9 game, and DX9, if memory serves, doesn't do anything like as good a job of caching data GPU-side. Put all this together with the super-high framerates, and it becomes plausible that 300-400FPS of CS:GO entails more bus traffic than 60-100FPS of a more graphically demanding game, exposing the bus as the bottleneck.

  • Tay Gumi
    Tay Gumi17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im Curious about the Memory allocation, Vega an ancient AMD GPU was able to access the CPU RAM "HCBB" (not sure if thats called this way), but I guess when, the first games will require to much RAM GPU and CPU only then it would be beneficial. I mean I was able to see this in Star Citizen already. Correct me if im wrong.

  • egysrac17
    egysrac1718 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love that you've mentioned that it's data centre - trickle down tech. Love insightful remarks like that

  • sürünen adam
    sürünen adam19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    res

  • House Station Live .com
    House Station Live .com23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    new gen radeon requires pci 4.0 :/ WTF

  • Chris James
    Chris Jamesหลายเดือนก่อน

    Does 11th gen intel utilize it better?

  • Jeff Something
    Jeff Somethingหลายเดือนก่อน

    pci 3,0 took like 5 years to implement sooo..

  • Jeff Something
    Jeff Somethingหลายเดือนก่อน

    what game requires pci 4-- none and none will any time soon. give it 10 years.

  • night crawler
    night crawlerหลายเดือนก่อน

    😂

  • im2sxc4yall
    im2sxc4yallหลายเดือนก่อน

    Linus is manly enough to wear a pink beanie 😍

  • Max de Beer
    Max de Beerหลายเดือนก่อน

    0:50 has a Samsung notification sound in the background.

  • Major Garlic Williams
    Major Garlic Williamsหลายเดือนก่อน

    For general consumers and even most gamers it means nothing. Unless your working with massive file transfers or somehow saturating the lanes.

  • Listening Point
    Listening Pointหลายเดือนก่อน

    1200 dollar mobo on the floor WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

  • Berfs1
    Berfs1หลายเดือนก่อน

    no one runs csgo at 4k very high....... this is stupidly pointless.

  • cody travis
    cody travisหลายเดือนก่อน

    HEY LINUS YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT THE GAMING COMMUNITY GIVE THOSE CARDS TO GAMERS SINCE REVIEWERS WILL GET THEIRS WHILE WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR EM

  • LightningwingDragon
    LightningwingDragonหลายเดือนก่อน

    Linus drop tips everyone!

  • b3rk
    b3rkหลายเดือนก่อน

    you cant just change place of 3rd and 4th gen after the first chart

  • YourMomGoogle
    YourMomGoogleหลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been thinking about this pcie bifurcation in regards to mining on small motherboards, but obviously the fact that only few and very expensive motherboards support it, its not feasible lol

  • YourMomGoogle
    YourMomGoogleหลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro I had a seizure when I saw that Last Gen Trash box on the street!!

  • gamer king
    gamer kingหลายเดือนก่อน

    2:33 imagine finding a titan rtx on the road i would be like "umm..m don't mind if i do"

  • Merked
    Merkedหลายเดือนก่อน

    I think high fps is what affects it.

  • TheRandyWanker
    TheRandyWankerหลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the point, can't buy anything anyways

  • Ryan Cooper
    Ryan Cooperหลายเดือนก่อน

    For the record, when you said "A theory is just that, a Theory, Let's put it to the test" you meant to say Hypothesis. A Hypothesis is something that is so far untested, where as a theory is something that has already been tested and has passed peer review and subsequently has become the closest you scientifically come to fact (Since fact does not appear in science as nothing in the known universe is 100% guaranteed) . Therefore a Hypothesis = Hypothetical, Theory = non-disproved.

  • Mar

    Mar

    หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Ryan Cooper Makes sense

  • Ryan Cooper

    Ryan Cooper

    หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Mar I just realised why you got confused, the last word was supposed to say "non-disproved" but my phone must have changed it.

  • Ryan Cooper

    Ryan Cooper

    หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Mar Pipe down, a theory that is disproven has its status as theory revoked. You don't know what you're on about.

  • Mar

    Mar

    หลายเดือนก่อน

    Theories can be disproven, you don't know what you're on about

  • Johan4j
    Johan4jหลายเดือนก่อน

    And of course he dropped something

  • paul maydaynight
    paul maydaynightหลายเดือนก่อน

    $4K of RTX 3090 SLI couldn't keep up without stutter in 4K , so gen4 wont make them do real 8K UHD 120fps+ right. hell gen 6 at 32 giga pulses a second including overhead, wont cut it unless someone puts a real multiset terabyte+ interconnects in the x86/x64, 3.5 x the old arm 1terabyte CoreLink interconnect speed probably wont cut it for long, unless they cheat and compress and fake re-upscale the data end to end...

  • creaper10
    creaper10หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll take that Titan RTX without hesitation why would you leave it on the road, I'm fairly sure you don't have THAT much money to throw away

  • Darrian Weathington
    Darrian Weathingtonหลายเดือนก่อน

    🤔 does linus have "DROP" merchandise yet? I think he should have a whole "DROP" series worth of merchandise

  • Marek Tomas
    Marek Tomas2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have TUF B550m for three days, but PCIe 4.0 is not working :( My 3070 + 5600x is working only PCIe 3.0 x16 or 4.0 x8. If I turn on 4.0 x16, graphic cart start to be very slow. I can´t explain it. I tried everything. :-/

  • Krhys
    Krhys2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd love to be getting 311 FPS on a 6700... at the moment I keep getting zero...

  • dan berg
    dan berg2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2020-2021 i dont know how i ended up hear i lost interest in hardware because of the out of stock problem the higher price tag new to old is just a joke. Am so happy i love 24 1080p and high fps no nead to uppgrade for long time. >The stores could have handle this hardware problem out of stock problem for long time but ignored it just lock the freaking components in upgrade packets ups no more out of stock cpu,gpu and scalpers can wipe ther ass. and we dont have this klick on difrent stores custemers geting 7 cards ore 7 cpu keeping one set and returning the other 6 ore sec market bs

  • Based Janitor
    Based Janitor2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how does this guy get to buy up all the 3080s and 3090s? its quite shit to listen to him nonchalantly stick a 2nd 3090 in.

  • MMAJP182
    MMAJP1822 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Linus, would you please link me to the best pc build out right now that is under 5k or close.

  • pwnStar
    pwnStar2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the first video of yours I actually really enjoyed. Great information coupled with your personality toned down is the way to go Mr. Linus.

  • Perri Connor
    Perri Connor2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Worth it just for the intro

  • TheDavid 50 • 13 years ago
    TheDavid 50 • 13 years ago2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yay! new linus drop tips video

  • Jayteasee
    Jayteasee2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:42 - Did anyone actually watch further? :D

  • flashpeter625
    flashpeter6252 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Upgrading a desktop is not pointless... ...but upgrading as often as new generations of hardware are released, that is most definitely pointless for the vast majority of users. Yearly upgrades? Get out. I would love to see an estimate of how much resources were wasted world-wide by gamers buying new hardware pointlessly.

  • Pyrolight
    Pyrolight2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't really expect x16 to make a difference, it is x8 that should be different.

  • Rannon
    Rannon2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:45 Max was here in Spirit! :p

  • Tonny Pedersen
    Tonny Pedersen2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the PCI Express gen 4 benefit is storage not graphics.

  • Frank Silvers
    Frank Silvers2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still use a late 2012 27” i7 iMac. It originally came with a 1TB Fusion Drive but today it has 9TB of internal storage, 1TB SSD and 8TB HDD. I also upgraded the internal AirPort WiFi/Bluetooth card to a latter generation one with ac WiFi. It runs great.

  • SR IRL
    SR IRL2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please sell me that 3090...

  • SR IRL
    SR IRL2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @:48 Next episode: Ground Tuning your new MSI Mobo

  • tomas gemes
    tomas gemes2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the leaked beannie

  • Adam Ossowicz
    Adam Ossowicz2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Plz hlp meh Linus, Ionly has 1 x RTX 3090, I need 2, plox halp

  • Dominik Šuk
    Dominik Šuk2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This just gets me thinking, whether I should be afraid of a bottleneck of running a 5600XT on Gen3 x8 thanks to having an NVMe on an Intel mobo... Seems to be a close call.

  • Alex Jacobsen
    Alex Jacobsen2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wanna see that 3090 in a PCI-e gen 2. mb to see what happens then :)

  • Rusu Dan
    Rusu Dan2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i would like to see more low end or budget builds since the majority of us have systems around those specs. all this high end stuff maybe like only 5% or less can actually benefit from these

  • sniktaw
    sniktaw2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I clicked on this video to see if there was some excuse I could use to magically turn my GTX 950 into an RTX 2070 and I was sorely disappointed.

  • Rock&Roll
    Rock&Roll2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me video quickly grab my video card before Linus sat down.

  • Bobby M
    Bobby M2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's not an LTT video if he doesn't drop things.

  • Allan Rowntree
    Allan Rowntree2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Then could we not use PCIE 4 to add more processors to our PCs?

  • AC3
    AC32 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MSI pushes PCI gen 4. Can't even buy PCI gen 4, or gen 3 cards anymore. Gen2 cards are going for gen 3 prices.

  • Rel ixo
    Rel ixo2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who cares ??? Ngreedia keep selling their cards to miners not for gamers! We have no chance of getting one .... for another 2 years at least if it goes on like this :( And amd ? Ofc produces 2 cards per month :D Its pathetic....

  • Moral Monster
    Moral Monster2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lets get Linus head to explode. Ask him to review a raspberry Pi. ;)

  • Ashkan Arabi
    Ashkan Arabi2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally, a sponsor that I don't skip.

  • S I O M A I
    S I O M A I2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that feel when that motherboard Linus dropped was more expensive than your entire current pc

  • Spotter Shooter
    Spotter Shooter2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lol either way you will never make me buy MSi products, ever.

  • Markus Lüftner
    Markus Lüftner2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Linus tech tips dropping the dough..... Classic

  • Sixgorillionshekelswindler Shlomo
    Sixgorillionshekelswindler Shlomo2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thumbs up, but not for the pink hat! XD

  • Shadz Gamez
    Shadz Gamez2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:43 That is a Linus Drop Tip for the ages right there. lol

  • Headloser
    Headloser2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about Crossfire and SLI effect?

  • Wrath Aloss
    Wrath Aloss2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone with a 1080Ti... I see no reason to upgrade unless it's a 3080 MINIMUM. Everything else is not enough of a performance increase to justify. That's without even taking into consideration the inflated prices; That's just the nail in the coffin. No yeah; I think I'll be fine. Maybe I can get a good used 3080 in a year or two.

  • Rod Duarte
    Rod Duarte2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait. "Started to Peter off". Was that a DEADPOOL REFERENCE?

  • Zeek M
    Zeek M2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't say this is not the Lambo I enjoy. A guy unafraid to show his mistakes then shows Atari Frogger level educational material. It hits me in the face Lambo because I know this is your way of playing nice when what you really wants to do is put Scalpercorp on ice. Lambo I'm IEEE , take short walk with me , I know what you're really after , performance through the rafter , filling us with joy and laughter , well played.

  • StrxngeThings
    StrxngeThings2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a 3070 on ebay cost like 1.3K... looking back an rtx2080ti at retail is actually a really fucking good deal compared to the shit now

  • kjell martin olsen
    kjell martin olsen2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    pcie 4.0 are just a TEST thill better drivers are out. then we get that speed we needing 4k 8k it. if pcie 5.0 gets out soon and we forget about pcie 4.0 then we must begin getting doubble 14 gb m,2 slots ssd sata 4 and so on. even the sound cards could run better of x sb series. all os on marked must support all pcie to lanes too when that getting out. we must wait years to get top test pcie 5 6 7 and so on. we will get old before we get to 8 th versions.

  • Ennovative
    Ennovative2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn, this is more of a testament to how good Gen 3 was more than anything else.

  • FLEX316
    FLEX3162 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HAHAHA that was quick.

  • andylikescandy
    andylikescandy2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You had dual RTX 3090's in a system and did not post a Cyberpunk framerate? Come on, guys.

  • Diabolus Nest
    Diabolus Nest2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ltt store dot- He got me again

  • V.P. More
    V.P. More2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:00 Listen closely in the background. You could hear a notification on someones phone lol

  • InfiniteDarkMass
    InfiniteDarkMass2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:31 - Camera quality has gone too far! It's just a joke about RTX Titan being a piece of trash, but I'm not looking at it. I'm looking at the dirt and leaves on the street, and going "WHOA!" like Keanu.

  • Clare Fabula
    Clare Fabula2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "if you're new to the channel, then **MOBO drops** me: LOL that about sums it up. 🤣

  • Mushfiqur Rahman
    Mushfiqur Rahman2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    linus drop tips

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